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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:07:23 -0000 Subject: Bugger!! Reply-To: tom-moore@lycos.nl Dear Rita Noting your problems with GENERALMEDICALCOUNCIL.CO.uk, I thought I'd be clever and grab GENERALMEDICALCOUNCIL.COM for you. You got there first. Shame, I would have liked to help you. :( Regards Tom Moore PS It's my belief, as well as a Quaker belief, that all human are equal. So Quakers do not use titles amongst themselves, no Sirs, Dames and the like. This applies to race, as much to gender and the rest. So I hope you see that not calling you "doctor" is more in agreement with what I expect is your stance against racism (have not read it yet), and not being rude to you. Tom |
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From: "Rita Pal" To: "Tom Moore" Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:50:22 +0200
Mornin Tom
Not everyone on usenet is a fraud :). I like posting as me. Why hide eh ! And yes you were being mean but hey I am used to it. Less boring than being nice. Good to know you can use the google search engines :). Wow you are talented !! :) Rita |
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I apologize if I have been rude to you on Usenet. I recall someone
giving a male name to Dr Rita Pal and assumed you were a fraud. I'm not
quite so sure now.
Are you Hindu? Have you tried Quakerism? Their root - there's a bit of
God in us all - is common, isn't it?
Regards
Tom Moore
To: "Rita Pal"
(the last Rita I knew, was from Leeds)
"I am not a Hindu. Indeed, I have no religion and only pray when one of my patients is in deep trouble and I have no idea what to do :) Not tried being a Quaker - not my scene."
Good thing about Quakers is, they let in Atheists, like me.
(trick to think of God as meaning good, then liberal atheist trash
like me are okay).
"Good to know you can use the google search engines :). Wow you are talented !! :)"
Could have been Ask Jeeves, which is even easier to use. Quite how
Jeeves has time to answer questions, when he has his tongue up the
establishment's . . ..
Do you get a lot of demands from nursing staff to prescribe increased
anti-psychotics medication?
Sucrea!! (Urdu/Punjab for thanks).
Regards
Tom Moore
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From: "Rita Pal"
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:07:26 +0200
"Do you get a lot of demands from nursing staff to prescribe increased anti-psychotics medication?"
Not really. I tend to see my patients everyday so that nurses do not have to
tell me anything :)
I am bengali by the way.
Reets
From: "Rita Pal"
"Do you get a lot of demands from nursing staff to prescribe increased anti-psychotics medication?"
Not really. I tend to see my patients everyday so that nurses do not have to
tell me anything :)
I am bengali by the way.
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
Sorry about the delay. I've had to reorganize my computing.
"Tomcat"
That's a nice thing to say, but I wonder, would you not be safer, if
you kept your hands off my pussy?
"General Adult Psychiatry. Everything is usually wrong from homlessness, debt, psychosis, depression, girlfriend probs etc."
But your only task is to tackle the psychosis, provided it is not
caused by something else. Women are slightly more prone to mental
illness, they have better imaginations for a start, but you seem to
be dealing with a majority of males.
Regarding these girlfriend problems, I saw Raj Persaud on day-time
television say "I'm convinced that women have better social skills
than men." Why did he need to be convinced of the obvious?
I suppose one might accept that men would be ignorance of this, and
the more arrogant reject it when told, but women are also often
completely ignorant of it also. Have you ever asked how this could
be, when chatting in the clean women's disco toilet?
"I am actually British. Born Sutton Coldfield West Midlands."
There's a cluster of big television transmitters there. Presumably
near the top of a high hill?
"Where were you born?"
Ely, in the County of Isle of Ely. May be more helpful if I say Ely
is now in Cambridgeshire.
Have you visited Bangladesh?
"Probably not mean enough. India needs a kick up its backside for being so backward."
Why?
I am aware that third world countries make themselves worse with poor
standards, for example no gender equality, or standards of safety at
work. So their exports are often low quality.
Pakistani owned shops insist on barter, something which seems to
centred on Iraq. One reason we were successful in the Industrial
Revolution, was Quaker Shops. They had fixed prices, so parents
instructed their children to use them, and this increased economic
progress.
That barter does not work, is not obvious, but it is clear, if you
look at the speed at which we buy homes, where we do barter, in
comparison to other fixed price transactions. Could someone tell
them please?
"Yes I know. Used to live in Zambia."
What put you there?
"Am brummy. Stop making a big deal about me being a foreigner :)."
The Bull Ring had some cheap shopping, last time I tried, and
Coventry Poly the cheapest beer.
"How about you?"
I've been to Germany a couple of times!! UK born and bred. Very
typical British: ashamed of it, for example. (The Americans think
they are anti-semitic).
Please write - please don't leave it as long as I did.
Regards
Tom Moore
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From: "Rita Pal"
Tomcat
"That's a nice thing to say, but I wonder, would you not be safer, if you kept your hands off my pussy?"
I had hoped you were 100 percent bloke with no cross dressing tendencies :)
"But your only task is to tackle the psychosis, provided it is not caused by something else."
Nope - all causes !!
Women are slightly more prone to mental
illness, they have better imaginations for a start, but you seem to
be dealing with a majority of males.
Women tend to have neurotic and depressive illnesses. Men tend to have proper mental illnesses !
"Regarding these girlfriend problems, I saw Raj Persaud on day-time television say "I'm convinced that women have better social skills than men." Why did he need to be convinced of the obvious?"
Persaud is stuck in that medium called "the vacuum" created by the media.
Real life is different.
"There's a cluster of big television transmitters there. Presumably near the top of a high hill?"
Its the only thing Andrew Mitchell our MP campaigns about.
" 'Where were you born?' "
Sutton Coldfield.
"Ely, in the County of Isle of Ely. May be more helpful if I say Ely is now in Cambridgeshire."
Does this mean you are posh !
> Have you visited Bangladesh?
Yes
" 'Probably not mean enough. India needs a kick up its backside for being so backward.' "
"Why?"
Cause the world has moved on and they are stuck in the days of the Raj.
"I am aware that third world countries make themselves worse with poor standards, for example no gender equality, or standards of safety at work. So their exports are often low quality."
I agree.
" 'Yes I know. Used to live in Zambia' "
"What put you there?"
Family working there.
"The Bull Ring had some cheap shopping, last time I tried, and Coventry Poly the cheapest beer."
You are very hedgy about yourself. Anyone told you that. Any whats with the
yahoo.nl account then. Is your name really Tom Moore eh
"I've been to Germany a couple of times!! UK born and bred. Very typical British: ashamed of it, for example. (The Americans think they are anti-semitic)."
Nothing wrong with that. Some say British men are the best breed. I of course prefer Scottish men given the kilt and so forth !
Why??
Very cynical aren't you ?
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
"I had hoped you were 100 percent bloke with no cross dressing tendencies :)"
More 110% bloke. I don't know about the cross dressing: never tried
it. Not even a kilt.
I was always told to be honest with women, but few want to hear, "no
I can't afford that." The clever man, it seems to me, says "NO," a
word women find far more attractive (I'm told).
" 'But your only task is to tackle the psychosis, provided it is not caused by something else.' "
"Nope - all causes !!"
How would you tackle psychosis caused by Obstructive Sleep Apnea?
"Women tend to have neurotic and depressive illnesses. Men tend to have proper mental illnesses !"
I think this is a reflection of the British obsession with expanding
I need to check that. Need to get away from this liberal crap that
anyone and everyone can get Schizophrenia (it's always been more
common amongst the poor). Few diseases attack all sections of
society equally, and I doubt that's true of mental illness, though I
dare say many claim it is.
" '[ . . . ] Raj Persaud [ . . . ] "I'm convinced that women have better social skills than men." Why did he need to be convinced of the obvious?' "
"Persaud is stuck in that medium called "the vacuum" created by the media. Real life is different."
Raj never says anything in his Radio 4 programme, All in the Mind;
simply hosts discussion by and between others. Okay, that's not
quite true, he did mention when he'd had a baby, and that his spent
his childhood in the West Indies (seems unusual to me).
I think Raj cannot tell the truth about psychiatry, for fear of being
treated like a witch. I tried to follow a debate, [prompted by
Oliver James book, They Really screwed Me Up], "a tablet or a chat."
Had Raj responded to proponents of counselling, by far the majority,
by pointing out that if they really wanted to believe that, they
would have to do so through the eye of faith, for there is no
evidence to support claims that talking (outside those trained in the
methods of Jung or Freud) has any value in the treatment of mental
illness; the British would have burnt him alive.
[ SC's TV TXs ]
Renowned as one of the lower quality MPs, even before his move from
Arnold, just north of Nottingham.
" 'Ely, in the County of Isle of Ely. May be more helpful if I say Ely is now in Cambridgeshire.' "
"Does this mean you are posh !"
Married to David Beckham? No chance.
Daddy was in the RAF. Otherwise, it might. I gather I am well
spoken. East Anglia has a lot of air bases, some under UK control.
" ' "Probably not mean enough. India needs a kick up its backside for being so backward." ' "
"Cause the world has moved on and they are stuck in the days of the Raj."
In what way?
" 'The Bull Ring had some cheap shopping, last time I tried, and Coventry Poly the cheapest beer.' "
"You are very hedgy about yourself. Anyone told you that."
Hedgy? I don't think that's quite right, but we'll see . . .?
Anyway, I don't think you're right that anyone could have told you
that. You know that is roughly correct, because you're local.
"Any whats with the yahoo.nl account then."
Same reason you have a US based domain name: easier to get.
I have an email address in Sweden. Stockholm is a beautiful city. I
wish I could show her to you. Seven rivers (I think): the Venice of
the North.
"Is your name really Tom Moore eh"
No, of course not, it's Thomas Christopher Patrick Moore. TCP,
Patrick Moore and the Patron Saint of Politicians. They say you're
parents love you.
Dickhead, here, was very clever at age 7. Chose my Roman Catholic
confirmation name to be Gabriel. Used to get letters from my elder
sister, addressed to TCP. with a great big G splashed on the
envelope.
"Nothing wrong with that. Some say British men are the best breed. I of course prefer Scottish men given the kilt and so forth !"
Cross dressing's okay, then?
You've managed to work out why men like skirts, then?
"[ . . . ] please don't leave it as long as I did."
"Why??"
I felt privileged to correspond with a doctor, let alone one who with post GP qualification.
"Very cynical aren't you ?"
I do hope so. Possibly not as cynical as your profession.
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Tomcat.
You are very antagonistic to the "profession". Have you ever been a patient
and been mistreated ?
One thing you have to realise about me is this - I do not believe in formal
qualifications and degrees. I do have a MBBS and BSc but not the MRCPsych. I
do though work PT and sometimes FT as a staff grade in psychiatry. Some
people say I am better at my job than most other doctors but I always value
what my patients say more than anyone else.
I have a great deal of
experience as my work intensivity is huge. I also run my own company and
work as a freelance writer ( you may have noticed). My great hobby is law. I
am studying it at the mo dual degress LLB ( OU) and LLM.
I believe that
medicine and even psychiatry is a constraining subject if a person does not
actually treat the person. I tend to be a problem solver and tend to like
different problems. I am an atypical and your emails to me have been
encircling me into " the profession" which I hate. I am not like other
doctors, never have been and never want to be. I actually pride myself in
being my own person.
Raj Persaud - I do not think much of him. He is very arrogant, unsociable
and thinks he knows about people but in my opinion he is too research
orientated, states the obvious and is a completely different doctor to me. I
have had dealings with him and they have not been good. I ended up dropping
the phone on him and telling him he was a very arrogant so and so. Thats me
for you.
Have no idea how I would treat psychosis caused by Sleep Ap. I would
probably send them off to be investigated physically and treat the
underlying cause. It would be a physical cause of psychosis I suspect.
Absolutely love your name. You are evasive, well brought up and feel doctors
are somehow unreachable or humans off the planet. What do you do by
profession then? You are a odd cat arent you. Like you though. Very
interesting mind.
You should be honest by the way - there is nothing wrong
with that. Women though are highly socialised, are unable to be independent
and have the need to procreate. Good job I discovered early in life that I
did not wish to be part of this clique of nail filers. Yes, I have a low
opinion of women !!
Over to you post accented wonderboy !
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
'You are very antagonistic to the "profession".'
I deny this.
The British are overly dependent upon psychology, and have been
apparently since before the second world war. Younger doctors have
played-up to this, older ones less so. This does help restrict
demand on the NHS.
"Have you ever been a patient and been mistreated ?"
I have not been put to death by deliberate over dose of Diamorphine,
although I have known, for longer than you, that this is standard
practice. My elder sister asked me about it in 1980 or 1981. She
moved to New Jersey in 1987, and still lives there, as far as I know.
"One thing you have to realise about me is this - I do not believe in formal qualifications and degrees."
This is the sort of trick for which I think you have fallen. You
would not say that about bus drivers. More likely, you approve of
former bus company, Midland Red's practice, of submitting its drivers
to a periodic Bad Habits Test.
How then can you not believe in formal qualifications?
"My great hobby is law."
I think you would do far more good working as a doctor.
"I believe that medicine and even psychiatry is a constraining subject if a person does not actually treat the person."
The opposite is the case: in fact I think you've just repeated what
you said above about formal qualifications. Put simply, you ought to
treat the disease.
When you treat the person, you get lost in psychobabble. The person
is not a cancer. You could spend all your waking hours with a
patient, trying to work out why he displays the symptoms of
hyperactivity, and get nowhere. But you can treat hyperactivity.
"I am an atypical and your emails to me have been encircling me into " the profession" which I hate."
If you are who you say, then I am not, and we are on the same side.
The medical establishment in this country is almost anti-medical, far
too often blaming the patient, and throwing up its own hands as if
somehow impotent.
Five years ago, mothers were still told to feed their children cooled
boiled water. Do they still? Maybe you can check for me.
I suppose after a cot death, the mother has to swear blind she always
boiled and cooled the baby's water. If she does, there's always
Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy.
If the water in this country is dangerous, then why do not hospitals
boil and cool the water they give the infirm (beats killing the older
ones, albeit by making them high)? If Professor Roy Meadows is so
right about Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, then why does he not
treat the condition?
Beverley Allett was a nurse, reputed to have Munchausen's Syndrome by
Proxy, who, in the development of her disorder, murdered children in
her care. Never offered treatment: how can anyone tell she would
not have complied?
Please do not be anti-medical. We need more medicine, and less self
blame, in this country. Fraud makes sense, but he's wrong.
"I actually pride myself in being my own person."
So? So what? You don't just have the be your own person - that's
British claptrap - know something from St Paul in the Christian
scriptures as well: you must also be right.
(Thus spake a minor voice of atheism, please see my
http://www.church.broomleigh.org - please don't skim this site, you might
get the wrong impression)
"Have no idea how I would treat psychosis caused by Sleep Ap."
Therefore, you would not know, therefore you would treat it as if
were cause unknown. A few neuroleptics, since little else is
available, and those tablets make obstructive sleep apnea worse.
"I would probably send them off to be investigated physically and treat the underlying cause."
I thought you said, in your opinion, the ICD10 was too prescriptive,
and a mental illness could have a physical cause?
"It would be a physical cause of psychosis I suspect."
But one can develop many symptoms of mental illness from obstructive
sleep apnea, and psychiatry ought to ensure those so suffering get
the effective treatment they need.
"Absolutely love your name."
Thanks. PAL = Phased Alternate Line, the standard method of
delivering television in this country. Appropriate for someone born
in Sutton Coldfield I suppose.
"You are evasive,"
I don't think so.
"well brought up"
Ha!
"and feel doctors are somehow unreachable or humans off the planet."
In 1987, I was privileged to be eating at the home of a GP, and his
nurse wife, Lois. They had a visitor, Elizabeth I think her name,
and were discussing how the visitor was working with heroin addicts.
Tom "So you're a nurse then?"
Many doctors, and a few ministers of religion, find it difficult to
get time to themselves. Therefore, I am keen not to abuse the time I
do have with them, and not to impose myself. So any time I do get
with doctors, is valued, by me.
"You are a odd cat arent you."
Probably. In some ways, very conservative.
"Like you though."
You don't know me. I would be very nervous, if we ever met; need to
go on a long walk, play tennis or anything to get my mind off trying
to impress you.
"Very interesting mind."
Bad habit of being right, knowing I'm right, trying and failing to convert
anyone. Have you ever noticed that being right has no value at all for
anyone? They dislike you for knowing better, you get nothing, apart
from the odd compliment through gritted teeth.
(see Moore v nearly all of Nottingham, 1988, subject Endowment
Mortgages)
"You should be honest by the way"
I seem to be reputed that way. Doesn't quite square with your
evasive allegation.
"Yes, I have a low opinion of women !!"
Better than men.
"Over to you post accented wonderboy !"
I don't know what the "post" bit means.
My father struck lucky when I was age 10. At the death of my mother,
he finally got a decent excuse for demanding sympathy. Gets a but
sick when time after time you hear this man complaining about the
death of the only woman he ever loved, and all you can remember is
arguments.
My father is wrongly diagnosed Schizophrenic (common in his age
group, born 1929). He believes all this rubbish he is told that he
is intelligent, and so is his son, his first daughter, but not his
second daughter.
My younger sister, Debbie, lives in Limehouse, and is at least as
intelligent as I. This crap works: Debbie passed all her mocks,
didn't take the real things, because everyone told her she was thick,
and now she has not one O level. Whether or not you believe in them,
GCE O levels they do, or did, have their uses.
My father did his best to loose his family responsibilities,
especially towards me, without ever admitting as much. I dislike my
father, because he has a low opinion of me, and does not care. I
gave up telling him I did want to know about family movements
(younger sister leaving and returning to her husband, et al.), and in
that process, gave up on him.
I hope I have answered your email properly. I do want you to like
me, just don't want to get caught saying as much (don't think women
are that keen to hear it).
All the best
Tom
Subject: Cutie lawyers wearing short skirts
Should have said Sigmund Freud, not Fraud.
Sorry :(
Tom
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From: "Rita Pal"
Tomcat
Ok here goes - you are right and I am wrong :). I thought that would make
you feel better ! Reading through your emails gives me the impression that
you are defensive about a lot of things. Perhaps afraid of showing that you
are indeed a " softie" at heart. A person who thinks deeply about a lot in
his life, the world and people. I suspect you are fairly attractive in your
own smouldering way :).
Our backgrounds and experiences dictate who we are and what we are. Formal
qualifications does not maketh the man. I believe that a medical degree does
not make a person a good doctor. Perhaps the problem lies with the medical
degree and its lack of empathy towards patient kind. I agree that patients
are blamed too much hence my unpopularity in writing www.nhs-exposed.com. I
love writing and editing the site.
It is part of my beliefs and that
somewhere in cyberspace, I can have a small place where there is truth and
justice and what I believed in when I was much younger. I am hated by the
medical profession. Sometimes I often wonder what exactly I have done wrong
in the world to be sent such wicked hatemail. The GMC are now investigating
me for writing NHS Exposed which amuses me a great deal. I am not really
anti - medicine but probably anti medical establishment.
You seem to have developed a sort of cynicism to life. I have no idea why. I
often wonder whether you have a great deal of fun. If you do not, I think
you should. There are slight peeks of humour and a sense of mischieviousness
in you. If we ever met, I am sure you would be at ease and not have to run
off to tennis :). I am a pretty laid back rabbit and actually like chatting
to a fair few people. Makes the world go round I suspect.
Your email tells me vague snippets about you but nothing about you at
present. It is almost like talking to a Dorian Grey :). I wonder if Thomas
is your real name or even if any of the material below is real :). Must be
the lycos.nl in you that makes me wonder ! You are quite right in that I do
not know you but then you are one of those men painfully insecure but one
that has nothing to be insecure about :).
Take care and speak soon Tomcat :)
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Meine liebe Freundin, Reets
This is a quick interim note.
"Ok here goes - you are right and I am wrong :)."
Let me get this straight: when I said you were right about the NH
over dosing elderly patients with Heroin; you were wrong, but I was
still right?
"I wonder if Thomas is your real name or even if any of the material below is real :)."
Please see attached copy of my birth certificate.
I think my salutation looks better in German, and I expect you must
know some, but, if you don't, Meine = my, liebe dear (in that
context), and Freundin = friend (ditto).
Liebe also means love, but not in that context.
I don't like it in English, because I think it somehow implies
possession.
Must go shopping, now.
With my genuine [ pause ] best regards
Thomas Christopher Patrick Moore
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Tom,
Amazing ability to twist my arguments upon me.
Like the birthdate by the way. Same age as my sisters.
You are hot on this diamorphine thing - I did not actually whistleblow about
that ( although it was part of it). Paying a high price for my views every
day.
I did some German at school. Find the language unromantic, rough and very
coarse. Of course, that of course changes with tall blonde German men :). The
problem with tall blonde German men is that you cannot have a conversation
with them.
Like the birth certificate touch. I enclose my GMC certificate in return.
Its the one I am going to give back after I win my case against them. See
www.generalmedicalcouncil.co.uk . Long battle. Tiresome and have better
things to do in life.
You are rather curious. What do you do for a living then and why do you hang
out on uk.legal?
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
"Ok here goes - you are right and I am wrong :). I thought that would make you feel better !"
I've never said anything of the kind. Remarks of that kind can be
very insulting.
"Perhaps afraid of showing that you are indeed a " softie" at heart."
At heart?
"I suspect you are fairly attractive in your own smouldering way :)."
What difference does it make?
"I believe that a medical degree does not make a person a good doctor."
Can you tell me why that is not a statement of the obvious?
"You seem to have developed a sort of cynicism to life. I have no idea why."
What's wrong with cynicism?
"If we ever met, I am sure you would be at ease and not have to run off to tennis :)."
I would like to meet you very much, in a friendly non-professional
way. I would do my best for you.
"Your email tells me vague snippets about you but nothing about you at present."
See http://www.tommoore.co.uk/
"It is almost like talking to a Dorian Grey :)."
Who is he?
"You are quite right in that I do not know you but then you are one of those men painfully insecure but one that has nothing to be insecure about :)."
You're so right: I can't take anything with me, can I?
Tom Moore
From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
Please, just listen.
Please?
Love from
Tom Moore
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"Love from"
Intrigue :)
Could not open your file.
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
" 'Love from' "
"Intrigue :)"
What intrigue?
"Could not open your file."
Really?
Plays on Real Player.
Open it with software associated the attached icon, or get the free
version of real player from loads of places, or if all else fails,
from http://www.real.com/ .
Did you not receive my last substantive email (sent 2003, 8 Feb 04)?
Shall I send you a copy?
Regards
Tom Moore
From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
"Ok here goes - you are right and I am wrong :). I thought that would make you feel better !"
I've never said anything of the kind. Remarks of that kind can be
very insulting.
"Perhaps afraid of showing that you are indeed a 'softie' at heart."
At heart?
"I suspect you are fairly attractive in your own smouldering way :)."
What difference does it make?
"I believe that a medical degree does not make a person a good doctor."
Can you tell me why that is not a statement of the obvious?
"You seem to have developed a sort of cynicism to life. I have no idea why."
What's wrong with cynicism?
"If we ever met, I am sure you would be at ease and not have to run off to tennis :)."
I would like to meet you very much, in a friendly non-professional
way. I would do my best for you.
"Your email tells me vague snippets about you but nothing about you at present."
See http://www.tommoore.co.uk/
"It is almost like talking to a Dorian Grey :)."
Who is he?
"You are quite right in that I do not know you but then you are one of those men painfully insecure but one that has nothing to be insecure about :)."
You're so right: I can't take anything with me, can I?
Tom Moore
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Tomcat
" 'Perhaps afraid of showing that you are indeed a " softie" at heart.' "
"At heart?"
Sure - as opposed to mind!
" 'I suspect you are fairly attractive in your own smouldering way :).' "
"What difference does it make?"
Do you have a low opinion of yourself?.
" 'I believe that a medical degree does not make a person a good doctor.' "
"Can you tell me why that is not a statement of the obvious?"
Because most people do not think like you.
" 'You seem to have developed a sort of cynicism to life. I have no idea why.' "
"What's wrong with cynicism?"
Everything. You stop saying words like " bunny" or " moocat" or watching cartoons like Scooby doo. World was not created beautifully for cynics.
"I would like to meet you very much, in a friendly non-professional way. I would do my best for you."
Have you not heard of my reputation. I never meet anyone unless I have to.
" 'Your email tells me vague snippets about you but nothing about you at present.' "
"See http://www.tommoore.co.uk/"
Interesting site. Colours are too bright but I guess you are a bloke and design was not your first choice !! Some good pictures of you. You use violent words which is rather interesting. Ever heard of the word subtlety???
"Who is he?"
Dorian Grey was written by Oscar Wilde. You will like the story.
" 'You're so right:' "
Of course I am :) With that, I am brash, arrogant and pig headed ! :)
"Tom Moore"
Sign it "Tom".
Reets
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
" ' "I suspect you are fairly attractive in your own smouldering way :)." ' "
" 'What difference does it make?' "
"Do you have a low opinion of yourself?"
Can you answer a question?
"Have you not heard of my reputation. I never meet anyone unless I have to."
Then why did you send me a Valentine's email?
Have you played the song I sent you, under my own name?
Did you bother with the rest of my email?
How much would you charge for working for, and assisting, murder?
" Sign it 'Tom'. "
Tom
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Message-ID: <000301c3ef42$b7ef5020$20834c51@D5505Q0J>
Tom
"Dear Reets"
" ' " ' I suspect you are fairly attractive in your own smouldering way :).' " ' "
" ' "What difference does it make?" ' "
Was just an attempt to compliment you.
"Then why did you send me a Valentine's email?"
I do not believe in Valentines. All the emails I have sent you, you have
acknowledged. I have no idea about a valentine email. I do not even think I
mentioned it. Really sorry. I get junk mail all the time.
"Have you played the song I sent you, under my own name?"
Could not download realplayer. System problems today.
"Did you bother with the rest of my email?"
Yes I did
"How much would you charge for working for, and assisting, murder?"
Would never work for or assist in murder.
Have I done something to offend you? If so, I am sorry.
Rita
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
" 'Then why did you send me a Valentine's email?' "
"I do not believe in Valentines."
Why did you cause me to be sent a Valentine's email?
"Could not download realplayer. System problems today."
Attached.
Have you now played the song I sent you, under my own name?
"Have I done something to offend you? If so, I am sorry."
Pretended that you found me attractive: is that not enough? It was
a very nasty, and a very Broomleigh, thing to do. These insults, you
throw at a dying man.
Do you know how many times they have abused me in this manner, since
1998 when one of their workers, Mrs Katie Fisher, lactation
consultant of Mother & Baby magazine did hit the sack with me?
http://www.tommoore.co.uk/abusers/fisher/katih_1.htm
They got her to make false claims to the Metropolitan Police,
accusing me of harassment. I don't like publishing things that, but
do I have any choice?
"Would never work for or assist in murder."
How much does Rita Pal charge for working for, and assisting in,
murder?
With my genuine best regards
Tom
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Message-ID: <00e301c3ef56$88824310$20834c51@D5505Q0J>
Tom
"Dear Reets"
" ' "Then why did you send me a Valentine's email?" ' "
" 'I do not believe in Valentines.' "
"Why did you cause me to be sent a Valentine's email?"
I do not understand Tom. What Valentines email are you talking about?
"Pretended that you found me attractive: is that not enough?"
Well, I never pretended anything. I think you are a person you has been incredibly hurt. I do think you are attractive in many ways. You are intelligent and witty
but perhaps you misunderstood me. You really do have a low opinion of yourself.
"It was a very nasty, and a very Broomleigh, thing to do. These insults, you throw at a dying man."
I have never intentionally thrown any insults at you. I am so sorry you misinterpreted what I said.
"Do you know how many times they have abused me in this manner, since 1998 when one of their workers, Mrs Katie Fisher, lactation consultant of Mother & Baby magazine did hit the sack with me? http://www.tommoore.co.uk/abusers/fisher/katih_1.htm
Well whatever happened in the past happened. Do you ever feel that there are
somethings that cannot be changed and that you need to move on in life.
"They got her to make false claims to the Metropolitan Police, accusing me of harassment. I don't like publishing things that, but do I have any choice?"
Yes you do. You have the choice of leaving your past behind and starting afresh.
" 'Would never work for or assist in murder.' "
"How much does Rita Pal charge for working for, and assisting in, murder?"
This question is out of order.
Rita
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Is that question - suggesting Dr Rita Pal is a murderer - 'out of order'?
(click here to see) ==>
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From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Rita
"Women tend to have neurotic and depressive illnesses. Men tend to have proper mental illnesses !"
Please see
http://www.samhsa.gov/oas/NHSDA/2k1NHSDA/vol2/appendixh_6.htm
Notice:
Serious Mental Illness is more common amongst women than men. Rita
Pal was taught something that simply is not true.
Do you care about the truth? If you do, then would you please admit
that you were wrong, and that there is serious over diagnosis of
mental illness amongst the UK's male population?
Regards
Tom
From: "Tom Moore"
Dear Reets
"What Valentines email are you talking about?"
The one you caused to be sent to me.
" 'Pretended that you found me attractive: is that not enough?' "
"Well, I never pretended anything. I think you are a person you has been incredibly hurt. I do think you are attractive in many ways. You are intelligent and witty but perhaps you misunderstood me."
You say, "I do think you are attractive in many ways." Who is this "you" person?
"You really do have a low opinion of yourself."
So I'm not paranoid then?
"I have never intentionally thrown any insults at you. I am so sorry you misinterpreted what I said."
On 8 February 2004, you wrote to me stating, "ok here goes - you are right and I am wrong :). I thought that would make you feel better !" That was insulting, wasn't it?
"Yes you do. You have the choice of leaving your past behind and starting afresh."
No I don't; I am being put to death. I tried to start afresh on moving to Rochdale, from London. Why don't you tell them to leave me alone?
" 'How much does Rita Pal charge for working for, and assisting in, murder?' "
"This question is out of order."
How much does Rita Pal charge for working for, and assisting in, murder? You have never said you would not, but have implied it.
You will understand I am familiar, to an extent, with dissembling language, as used by people like you, who practice law. That is one reason I do not think you should practice law.
As far as it's a reasonable thing to say, I still like you, Reets. I think it is a pity that some of the things you say, appear to be well intentioned rubbish. I am trying to show you where you are mistaken, along with the majority of reasonable people in this country, and perhaps persuade you to make these facts more widely known.
The facts include that mental illness is not nearly as prevalent as the British establishment claims. An example of this, is the way serious mental illness is more commonly diagnosed in UK males, yet in fact serious mental illness is more common amongst females. For that, please see
http://www.samhsa.gov/oas/NHSDA/2k1NHSDA/vol2/appendixh_6.htm
Will you now please revise your opinion that serious mental illness is more common amongst males, and state, what is now obvious, that this country has a problem with over diagnosis of mental illness in UK males?
Please now answer, and properly, please.
With my best regards
Tom
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Message-ID: <019201c3ef59$12a09ef0$20834c51@D5505Q0J>
Tom
Will not be able to access my computer for a while as I am going off
oncall for a bit.
Will answer your emails next week when I return.
Rita
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I never again heard from fake rebel Dr Rita Pal
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From: "Rita Pal"